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#1 PhilTaylor

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 01:07 PM

I just blogged about this, at http://blogs.msdn.co...other-ship.aspx

As I say, Vista users should run, not walk, and get this download. It will provide major help for OOM errors.

And then there is one more part, to come from us later this fall.

#2 RoyEP3

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:19 PM

Sorry to be naive, but what exactly does this patch do?  I do have vista and my fsx does crash from time to time or run out of virtual memory, but I've never heard of an OOM error (I don't think, at least).

And does this patch only benefit people with 32bit OS and the 2gb memory limit?

Edited by RoyEP3, 28 August 2007 - 02:24 PM.


#3 PhilTaylor

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:22 PM

View PostRoyEP3, on Aug 28 2007, 03:19 PM, said:

Sorry to be naive, but what exactly does this patch do?


this patch fixes a serious flaw in how Vista manages graphics memory that contributes to OOM errors.

#4 reider

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:29 PM

You may or may not know OOM or seen it as an Out Of Memory error.......

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:37 PM

View PostPhilTaylor, on Aug 28 2007, 07:07 PM, said:

I just blogged about this, at http://blogs.msdn.co...other-ship.aspx

As I say, Vista users should run, not walk, and get this download. It will provide major help for OOM errors.

And then there is one more part, to come from us later this fall.


Thanks for the heads up Phil, btw I thought you was on your holidays ?  :lol:

Edited by Cell, 28 August 2007 - 02:37 PM.


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Posted 29 August 2007 - 08:16 AM

Yes, thanks a lot Phil, just completed 4.77 hrs of flight time and not even a slight hesitation.

Great stuff, now of you go and enjoy your holidays,

Cheers,

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 11:10 AM

View PostPhilTaylor, on Aug 28 2007, 07:07 PM, said:

I just blogged about this, at http://blogs.msdn.co...other-ship.aspx

As I say, Vista users should run, not walk, and get this download. It will provide major help for OOM errors.

And then there is one more part, to come from us later this fall.
Does this patch mean I would no longer have to edit the fsx.exe file with Explorer Suite to allow it to use more than 2GB of address space?

I followed the instructions in the thread at AVSIM, as suggested in your WebLog, and it worked a treat for me.  It'd be good to know I wouldn't have to worry about doing that now.

#8 PhilTaylor

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 11:56 AM

View PostMetalex, on Aug 29 2007, 12:10 PM, said:

View PostPhilTaylor, on Aug 28 2007, 07:07 PM, said:

I just blogged about this, at http://blogs.msdn.co...other-ship.aspx

As I say, Vista users should run, not walk, and get this download. It will provide major help for OOM errors.

And then there is one more part, to come from us later this fall.
Does this patch mean I would no longer have to edit the fsx.exe file with Explorer Suite to allow it to use more than 2GB of address space?

I followed the instructions in the thread at AVSIM, as suggested in your WebLog, and it worked a treat for me.  It'd be good to know I wouldn't have to worry about doing that now.

no, these are 2 separate things and both are required.

SP2 will mark the app /3G aware so you will no longer need to worry about that once its out.

#9 Metalex

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 12:23 PM

View PostPhilTaylor, on Aug 29 2007, 05:56 PM, said:

View PostMetalex, on Aug 29 2007, 12:10 PM, said:

View PostPhilTaylor, on Aug 28 2007, 07:07 PM, said:

I just blogged about this, at http://blogs.msdn.co...other-ship.aspx

As I say, Vista users should run, not walk, and get this download. It will provide major help for OOM errors.

And then there is one more part, to come from us later this fall.
Does this patch mean I would no longer have to edit the fsx.exe file with Explorer Suite to allow it to use more than 2GB of address space?

I followed the instructions in the thread at AVSIM, as suggested in your WebLog, and it worked a treat for me.  It'd be good to know I wouldn't have to worry about doing that now.

no, these are 2 separate things and both are required.

SP2 will mark the app /3G aware so you will no longer need to worry about that once its out.
I see, thanks.  Sorry, that's just me not reading closely enough.

If the address space edit already cures OOM errors for me, should I still install the new fix?  The Anandtech article seems to suggest a tiny amount of risk (if that's the right word) due to required changes at video driver level (although I do have the latest drivers installed).  Should I go ahead and install, or is it a case of "if it ain't broke..."?

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 12:44 PM

Ignore me.  The article goes on to say that the fix should definitely be installed.  I will run to get this download...  :lol:

Edited by Metalex, 29 August 2007 - 12:44 PM.


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Posted 29 August 2007 - 02:37 PM

View PostMetalex, on Aug 29 2007, 09:10 AM, said:

Does this patch mean I would no longer have to edit the fsx.exe file with Explorer Suite to allow it to use more than 2GB of address space?

Can you elaborate or link me to how that is done?  Thanks.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:21 AM

View PostRoyEP3, on Aug 29 2007, 08:37 PM, said:

View PostMetalex, on Aug 29 2007, 09:10 AM, said:

Does this patch mean I would no longer have to edit the fsx.exe file with Explorer Suite to allow it to use more than 2GB of address space?

Can you elaborate or link me to how that is done?  Thanks.
See Phil Taylor's WebLog here.

In the article, Phil links to this thread at AVSIM.

If you're getting OOM errors, it is definitely worth following those instructions.  It worked for me.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 05:05 AM

Thanks Phil, topic pinned !

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 08:53 AM

Running amd 4200+ 3Gb ram 7600gt so i thought i would give the update a try. Trees and houses did not seem to be popping up as much as i moved over land in FSX, but over the sea, left rudder on the floatplane caused the seas in the distance to move one way and opposite rudder made the sea go the other and the texture of the water was a shimmery sort of effect. Like coming in to land with full sun glare on the water. Scary stuff..... Not quite sure what to make of it all. Did a restore point though, just in case. Anyone any comments.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 12:50 PM

Is this also another name for BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death). Because I'm suffering this after running FSX after 20mins, however I'm sure it's either my graphic card or joystick drivers.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:30 AM

Hello Phil!

I having a bit of trouble running my FSX with SP2 on Vista, its no acceleration its just the SP2 off of Microsoft.com

When i run FSX after installing it just says after a while, MSFSX must close. The does the error report thing.

Any thoughts?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:27 AM

Date: Aug 13, 2007  we are post SP1 now..

Well what about Vista SP1?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 04:47 AM

View PostGOZR, on Apr 21 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

Date: Aug 13, 2007  we are post SP1 now..

Well what about Vista SP1?

End of August 2007 this thread was started, the subject was OOM not SP1.  Its a bit of an old thread to resurrect and a bit much to try changing the subject.  Perhaps a post in the forum itself rather than in a sticky?  After all SP1 and SP2 are already released and under discussion often enough.

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#19 Mr-Sim

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:31 AM

Would someone be able to reupload fix this because the Avsim link doesn't work :hrmm:

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:36 AM

See top link, url inside linked to hotfix on ms site :hrmm: