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#21 -Toshiba-

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 10:28 PM

The A330 is a heavy.

If the A342 is a heavy (MTOW = 275,000)Then the A330 is one to.

Oops = nevermind guys. the A330 has a MTOW of 233,000. (Cheap....)

The A340's have a high MTOW because of they have 4 Engines.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 05:55 PM

View Postas737700, on Nov 11 2008, 07:40 PM, said:

View PostNWilkinson, on Nov 11 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

View PostDuke, on Nov 11 2008, 10:40 AM, said:

Except for the B757, which is classified as 'heavy' for separation purposes regardless of TOW

For the 757-200, I think it was because of it's wake turbulence.

757-300 exceeds the 255,000 rule so it's always a heavy.

I'd also like to add that although the 757-200 is a "heavy" for separation purposes, the word "heavy" is not added to the end of the callsign.  Only the 757-300 flights have "heavy" added to the end, because they are the ones that have a MTOW over 255,000 pounds.

Ah yes good call :hrmm:  I forgot about that small detail about the 757-200. :hrmm:

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:10 PM

View PostFlightsimulatorpilot, on Nov 13 2008, 03:05 AM, said:

View PostFlying_Pie, on Nov 12 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

lies, all lies. they're not heavy, they're ultralights
Seriously. I don't know where he got the idea that the A330 family is a heavy.

It is...

The Heavy classification is given at 255,000 pounds MTOW.

The A330 MTOW is 513,677 pounds (or 233 tonnes)

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Edited by Moses., 13 November 2008 - 06:17 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:20 PM

^ Thank You. (I mistook tons to be pounds) Moses is on my side. The A330's and A340's are all Heavies :hrmm:


Oh any don't forget the B777's, B747s', and B767's!

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:27 PM

View PostMoses., on Nov 13 2008, 06:10 PM, said:

View PostFlightsimulatorpilot, on Nov 13 2008, 03:05 AM, said:

View PostFlying_Pie, on Nov 12 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

lies, all lies. they're not heavy, they're ultralights
Seriously. I don't know where he got the idea that the A330 family is a heavy.

It is...

The Heavy classification is given at 255,000 pounds MTOW.

The A330 MTOW is 513,677 pounds (or 233 tonnes)

:hrmm:
Sarcasm. :hrmm:

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:55 PM

Your mom is heavy.  :hrmm:

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:57 PM

Heavy isn't used as often in callsigns these days, that's true, but it is still very common on frequency for traffic advisories in terminal areas.  Ex: "Southwest 529, caution the heavy triple seven departing runway 28L" or "United 529 Tango, do not overtake the heavy 757 at your three o'clock for 28R"

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 10:02 PM

nvm. Why isn't heavy common anymore?

Edited by Toshiba Airbus, 13 November 2008 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:05 PM

Cause every aircraft in Canada is a big A340 :hrmm:

Mainly it's not used anymore, except when given traffic advisories because every third call would end or begin in "Heavy".  Proper telephony procedures recommend it is used on the initial call:

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Calgary departure g'evening, Air Canada 851 heavy, 5500 for 7000

But can be dropped on the rest of the calls between those radio stations.

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 05:47 AM

View PostFlightsimulatorpilot, on Nov 14 2008, 01:27 AM, said:

View PostMoses., on Nov 13 2008, 06:10 PM, said:

View PostFlightsimulatorpilot, on Nov 13 2008, 03:05 AM, said:

View PostFlying_Pie, on Nov 12 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

lies, all lies. they're not heavy, they're ultralights
Seriously. I don't know where he got the idea that the A330 family is a heavy.

It is...

The Heavy classification is given at 255,000 pounds MTOW.

The A330 MTOW is 513,677 pounds (or 233 tonnes)

:hrmm:
Sarcasm. :lol:

Ah....I was tired :hrmm:

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 04:27 PM

I would argue any airliner is heavy. If you don't believe me, try picking one up or letting one roll over your toe.