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[learjet45dream]

Well, I guess I will have to save up. I think once I get enough money, I am gonna go head to Micro Center and pick one up, see how it compares STOCK (3.0 GHz E8400, 2.4 GHz Q6600). Now I need to see if I can manage to figure out a way to OC my mobo.

[Tree Trimmer]

learjet45 aka JK, on Jan 29 2008, 12:08 AM, said:

Well, I guess I will have to save up. I think once I get enough money, I am gonna go head to Micro Center and pick one up, see how it compares STOCK (3.0 GHz E8400, 2.4 GHz Q6600). Now I need to see if I can manage to figure out a way to OC my mobo.

Two good guides They have good info in them.

Tree Trimmer

http://www.nvidia.co...verclocking.pdf

http://www.nvidia.co...verclocking.pdf

[Mango]

PiP, on Jan 28 2008, 09:24 PM, said:

Mango, on Jan 28 2008, 06:36 AM, said:

Ermm... FSX can utilize more than 2 cores. However, i believe a E8400 at 4.3 GHz wipes the floor with a 3.2 GHz Q6600 - at least while running FSX.

I mirror, Even the E6600 (well, a good one) would be better at FSX due to the higher capacity to overclock.

Indeed, it is.

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I'm running a 8800GT 512 ASUS, @1920x1200

I bet you'll need two of those at this resolution with a 4+ GHz CPU...  lol

Edited by Mango, 29 January 2008 - 04:27 AM.

[enrico68]

Toby wrote: using 4 DIMM slots greatly reduces overclocking potential on certain motherboards.
Why is that, and if it is so, does it still make sense to get a 64 bit OS, in order to see all 4 GBs of RAM?

MUL wrote.The 45nm Quad's should certainly clock better than the 65nm Quads but probably not quite as well as the 45nm Duals.

Why do dual core cpus clock better than quads?

Given all of the above, if I have to get a cpu, ( I don't own one) should I get the E6850, Q6600, E8400, or a 45nm Quad?

[_TW_]

The E8400 beats the E6850 and is cheaper in price, so that's a no-brainer.  Seeing that most applications as of now do not take full advantage of quad core CPU's, I'd go with the E8400.

The reason why you might achieve better overclocks using less RAM, I don't know the actual answer to that, i've just read it in discussions of Extreme Overclockers.  They could achieve 800MHz more using one 512MB stick rather than four 1GB sticks.  I think it has to do with how much extra power the motherboard has to give for each DIMM being used, thus reducing power for the CPU overclock.  I'm not 100% sure that's the right answer though.

[enrico68]

Thank you Toby, well, considering FSX, of all the cpus I wrote down, which one would you suggest? Shoud I go for a E8400, Q6600, or wait for a 45nm quad?

[_TW_]

Seeing that my Dual-Core at 3.2GHz is plenty for FSX, I'd say that a E8400 near 4GHz will be more than enough to play FSX near max with a nice graphics card.  There won't be much difference I'd say in FSX performance from a E8400 clocked higher and a overclocked Q6600.  They will both provide very high FPS, most likely so high you will not notice a difference.  Since the E8400 is also $60 cheaper than the Q6600, I'd go with the E8400 for sure.

[AlfaSIM-OCX]

There is a thread in the XtremeSystems Forums and here it is please read and educate yourselves..

Yorkfield Q9450 vs Kentsfield Q6600 at 3.6Ghz

It will take a very highly OCed Dual Core to beat a Quad Core on multi threads...

Edited by AlfaSIM-OCX, 29 January 2008 - 10:44 AM.

[enrico68]

Wow, way to go then, without spending too much dough...thanks again Toby, and nice forum, Alfa.

[GOZR]

Well sold my 7950 GX2 + DS3 mobo and the E6700 for 150 $ one will be happy just a good gesture.. .. ?

[VFR_Pierre]

You sold it for cheap! You should get something real good like the E8400 and just OC it to the max!

[iKettles]

GOZR, on Jan 31 2008, 02:20 AM, said:

Well sold my 7950 GX2 + DS3 mobo and the E6700 for 150 $ one will be happy just a good gesture.. .. ?

You're kidding? If not, you got ripped off.

Edited by iKettles, 31 January 2008 - 03:56 PM.

[Mul.]

iKettles, on Jan 31 2008, 08:56 PM, said:

GOZR, on Jan 31 2008, 02:20 AM, said:

Well sold my 7950 GX2 + DS3 mobo and the E6700 for 150 $ one will be happy just a good gesture.. .. ?

You're kidding? If not, you got ripped off.

In fairness, if I were given the opportunity to buy those 3 components for the equivalent of $150, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[jcrouse55]

THE RESULTS ARE IN!!!

I received my Wolfdale today, and installed it and clocked easy to 3.96ghz running 1.325 volts at 27c at idle and 43c under load running FSX. I got an improvement on fsp by 4.4. Thats at the same airport running the exact settings over my Quad Q6600.  So was it worth it? I think in the long run it will be. I am going to play with it a little more, but do not except to see much improvement. It is cheaper than the Quad and a little faster so I think I would advise people to get this for FSX over the Q6600.  Thanks everyone for your input!  John

[GOZR]

Yeas i got good last night.. i posted it a bit everywhere but didn't get responses.. that was the system that i had triple digit's FPS
I will see what i can master with the 2 x 16 PCIE 780i this time.
If you keep your cards at 512 mb you always be limited on FSX.