10 replies to this topic

[Alex_S]

Now, this may very well be my poor landing skills, but i took the BAe 146-300 to LCY. Landed around 140 knots with the spoilers already activated. As soon as i touched down i manually (no autobrake) applied the brakes, but ended up running off the end of the runway. Either its me, or i need to upgrade the brakes.
Does anyone have any idea of how one would do that? Or is it going against some policy of HJG, the desinger of the aircraft.
Thanks

[Soap]

Please apply the autobrakes and engaged the thrust reversers and the the spoilers when you hit the ground.

Go to the Learning Center in FSX if you have it and find the Jets section, scroll all the way down the page and you see the last orange box full of typing right? Read it. And you will know. Sorry I can't copy and paste for you, it doesn't work in FSX.

F2= engage thrust reversers
Shift+/= Arm the Spoilers
Auto Brakes= Set them in your cocpit and if you don't know where, it should teel you in the Jets section again.
If it doesn't work by clicking in the cocpit, set a keyboard command for it. It has 1, 2, and 3 right? 1 is for less powerful and 3 is for
the most powerful, and sometimes you have MAX.

Hope I helped.

And you will probably have to have permission from the author before you can do changes to the plane.

[Soap]

I saw your shot on your other topic, if that one is it, you're a bit high like I commented and also, you will set your
wheels on fire if you only use your brakes.

[dazwalsh]

Give it a good ol' stab of that gorgeous F2 button

And as far as i know you can make little changes like altering brake strength as long as you don't distribute any files.

Edited by dazwalsh, 29 July 2009 - 02:16 PM.

[Alex_S]

Hi all, 'fraid the BAe has no reverse thrust, thats why im in this problem. With autobrake 3 i managed to pull off at the last taxiway, i was just wondering if there was anything else I can do. Autobrake MAX sounds a little OTT
Thanks anyhow

[Battle_Penguin]

Quote

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sim=bae1463
model=
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sound=
texture=white
checklists=
ui_manufacturer=British Aerospace
ui_type=146 300
ui_variation=Plain White
description=Aircraft by Jon Murchison - www.flightsim.co.nz, Panel by Matthias Lieberecht - www.baepanelproject.com, Distribution - Historic Jetliner Group - http://www.simviation.com/hjg/main.htm
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atc_id=
atc_airline=
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title=ARNZ BAE 146-300
sim=bae1463
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
checklists=
ui_manufacturer=British Aerospace
ui_type=146 300
ui_variation= Flight Test
description=Aircraft by Jon Murchison - www.flightsim.co.nz, Panel by Matthias Lieberecht - www.baepanelproject.com, Distribution - Historic Jetliner Group - http://www.simviation.com/hjg/main.htm
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atc_id=
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visual_damage=0
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atc_parking_types=GATE,RAMP
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[General]
performance=Cruise Speed: 432 Knots TAS or Mach 0,7\nMaximum Range: 1,138 nm\nService Ceiling: 29,000 ft\nMax Takeoff Wgt: 44,225 kgn\n\n\n\n\n
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[General]
performance=Cruise Speed: 432 Knots TAS or Mach 0,7\nMaximum Range: 1,138 nm\nService Ceiling: 29,000 ft\nMax Takeoff Wgt: 44,225 kgn\n\n\n\n\n
atc_type=BRITISHAEROSPACE
atc_model=BA46
editable=1

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar=1.360
pitch_stability=1.1
roll_stability=1.0
yaw_stability=1.1
parasite_drag_scalar=1.05
induced_drag_scalar=1.0
elevator_effectiveness=0.9
aileron_effectiveness=1.0
rudder_effectiveness=1.100
elevator_trim_effectiveness=0.8
aileron_trim_effectiveness=1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness=1.000

[weight_and_balance]

// ACM V2.0
max_gross_weight = 97516
empty_weight = 54500
reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0
empty_weight_CG_position = 0, 0, 0
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 1157891
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 560372
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 1575881
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0

max_number_of_stations = 7

station_load.0 = "340.0, 37.5, 0.0, 0.0, Pilots"
station_load.1 = "5100.0,  27.50,  0.00, 0.00, 30 Pax forward"
station_load.2 = "5900.0, 5.0,  0.00, 0.00, 35 Pax center"
station_load.3 = "5900.0, -12.5.0,  0.00, 0.00, 35 Pax aft"
station_load.4 = "2500, 22.5, 0.0, 0.0, Cargo forward"
station_load.5 = "2500, -12.5, 0.0, 0.0, Cargo aft"


[lights]

//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing

light.0 = 3, 1, -43,  2.5, fx_navredh ,
light.1 = 3,  1,  43,   2.5, fx_navgreh ,
light.2 = 2, -44.5,    0.00,   3.4, fx_strobeh ,
light.3 = 2, 0, -43,   2.5, fx_strobeh ,
light.4 = 2, 0,  43,   2.5, fx_strobeh ,
light.5 = 1, 13.5,    0.00,  7, fx_beaconh ,
light.6 = 1,  8.8,    -2.3, -6.5, fx_beaconb ,
light.7 = 4,  42.0,    0.00,   1.102, fx_vclighth,


[GeneralEngineData]
//0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop

engine_type = 1
fuel_flow_scalar = 1.150
engine.0 = 3.000, -21.000, -0.667
engine.1 = 6.000, -13.000, -0.500
engine.2 = 6.000, 13.000, -0.500
engine.3 = 3.000, 21.000, -0.667
min_throttle_limit=0.000000


[effects]
wake = fx_wake
water = fx_spray
dirt = fx_tchdrt
concrete = fx_sparks
touchdown = fx_tchdwn, 1
windshield_rain_effect_available = 1

[fuel]

//Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type = 2
number_of_tank_selectors = 2
// Total fuel equivalent 20600 lb

Center1 = 0, 0, 0, 659, 0
LeftMain = -1, -19, 0, 1216, 0
RightMain = -1, 19, 0, 1216, 0
electric_pump=0


[contact_points]
static_pitch = -1.2
static_cg_height = 9
tailwheel_lock = 0
gear_system_type = 0
max_number_of_points = 7

point.0 = 1, 42.800, 0, -8.57, 1574.809, 0, 0.9, 35, 0.3, 2.5, 0.987, 5, 5, 0, 0, 0
point.1 = 1, -3.5058, -15.00, -10.4, 1574.803, 1, 1.5, 0, 1.5, 2.5, 0.642, 5, 5, 2, 0, 0
point.2 = 1, -3.5057, 15.00, -10.4, 1574.803, 2, 1.5, 0, 1.5, 2.5, 0.642, 5, 5, 3, 0, 0
point.3 = 2, -10.2253, -42.8538, 2.3935, 787.402, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0
point.4 = 2, -10.225, 42.5124, 2.2342, 787.402, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0
point.5 = 2, -53.5457, 0, 3.4065, 787.402, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0
point.6 = 2, 42.9256, 0, -2.8684, 787.402, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0

[keyboard_response]
elevator = 110.000, 250.000
aileron = 110.000, 250.000
rudder = 110.000, 250.000


[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude = 6000
gear_bump_nose_direction = 18000
gear_bump_nose_duration = 250000
gear_bump_left_magnitude = 6000
gear_bump_left_direction = 35500
gear_bump_left_duration = 250000
gear_bump_right_magnitude = 6000
gear_bump_right_direction = 500
gear_bump_right_duration = 250000
ground_bumps_magnitude1 = 1500
ground_bumps_angle1 = 8900
ground_bumps_intercept1 = 5
ground_bumps_slope1 = 0.48
ground_bumps_magnitude2 = 1000
ground_bumps_angle2 = 9100
ground_bumps_intercept2 = 0.075
ground_bumps_slope2 = 1
crash_magnitude1 = 10000
crash_direction1 = 1000
crash_magnitude2 = 10000
crash_direction2 = 9000
crash_period2 = 75000
crash_duration2 = 2500000
stick_shaker_magnitude = 5000
stick_shaker_direction = 0
stick_shaker_period = 111111

[airplane_geometry]
//ACM_AREAW1// 0,0,0,3.2766,1.4562,1.4562,0,3.1127,2.9125,2.9125
//ACM_AREAW2// 0,2.9489,4.3688,4.3688,0,2.7851,5.8250,5.8250,0,2.6212
//ACM_AREAW3// 7.2813,7.2813,0,2.4574,8.7376,8.7376,0,2.2936,10.1938,10.1938
//ACM_AREAW4// 0,2.1297,11.6501,11.6501,0,1.9659,13.1064,13.1064,0,1.8021
//ACM_AREAH1// 0,0,0,2.8871,0.4811,0.4811,0,2.7428,0.9623,0.9623
//ACM_AREAH2// 0,2.5984,1.4435,1.4435,0,2.4540,1.9247,1.9247,0,2.3097
//ACM_AREAH3// 2.4059,2.4059,0,2.1653,2.8871,2.8871,0,2.0210,3.3683,3.3683
//ACM_AREAH4// 0,1.8766,3.8495,3.8495,0,1.7323,4.3307,4.3307,0,1.5879
//ACM_AREAV1// 0,0,0,4.9514,0.5501,0.5501,0,4.5553,1.1003,1.1003
//ACM_AREAV2// 0,4.1592,1.6504,1.6504,0,3.7631,2.2006,2.2006,0,3.3670
//ACM_AREAV3// 2.7508,2.7508,0,2.9708,3.3009,3.3009,0,2.5747,3.8511,3.8511
//ACM_AREAV4// 0,2.1786,4.4013,4.4013,0,1.7825,4.9514,4.9514,0,1.3864
//ACM_CAREAW1// 6.5532,6.5532,1.6383,2.2936,7.2813,7.2813,1.6383,2.2608,8.0094,8.0094
//ACM_CAREAW2// 1.6383,2.2280,8.7376,8.7376,1.6383,2.1953,9.4657,9.4657,1.6383,2.1625
//ACM_CAREAW3// 10.1938,10.1938,1.6383,2.1297,10.9220,10.9220,1.6383,2.0970,11.6501,11.6501
//ACM_CAREAW4// 1.6383,2.0642,12.3782,12.3782,1.6383,2.0314,13.1064,13.1064,1.6383,1.9987
//ACM_CAREAH1// 0,0,1.4435,2.8871,0.4811,0.4811,1.4435,2.8149,0.9623,0.9623
//ACM_CAREAH2// 1.4435,2.7428,1.4435,1.4435,1.4435,2.6706,1.9247,1.9247,1.4435,2.5984
//ACM_CAREAH3// 2.4059,2.4059,1.4435,2.5262,2.8871,2.8871,1.4435,2.4540,3.3683,3.3683
//ACM_CAREAH4// 1.4435,2.3819,3.8495,3.8495,1.4435,2.3097,4.3307,4.3307,1.4435,2.2375
//ACM_CAREAV1// 0,0,1.2378,3.7136,0.5501,0.5501,1.2378,3.5155,1.1003,1.1003
//ACM_CAREAV2// 1.2378,3.3174,1.6504,1.6504,1.2378,3.1194,2.2006,2.2006,1.2378,2.9213
//ACM_CAREAV3// 2.7508,2.7508,1.2378,2.7233,3.3009,3.3009,1.2378,2.5252,3.8511,3.8511
//ACM_CAREAV4// 1.2378,2.3271,4.4013,4.4013,1.2378,2.1291,4.9514,4.9514,1.2378,1.9310
wing_area = 894.000
wing_span = 86.000
wing_root_chord = 9.850
wing_dihedral = -1.000
wing_incidence = 0.000
wing_twist = 0.000
oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.800
wing_winglets_flag = 0
wing_sweep = 15.000
wing_pos_apex_lon = 8.500
wing_pos_apex_vert = 0.000
htail_area = 304.000
htail_span = 28.417
htail_pos_lon = -41.000
htail_pos_vert = 0.000
htail_incidence = -1.800
htail_sweep = 0.000
vtail_area = 203.000
vtail_span = 16.245
vtail_sweep = 0.000
vtail_pos_lon = -40.000
vtail_pos_vert = 5.833
elevator_area = 87.000
aileron_area = 36.960
rudder_area = 34.5
elevator_up_limit = 25.5
elevator_down_limit = 21.5
aileron_up_limit = 19.5
aileron_down_limit = 14.5
rudder_limit = 23.5
elevator_trim_limit = 8.5
spoiler_limit = 60.0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 3.000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 9.969
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0.000
spoilerons_available = 0

[electrical]
max_battery_voltage = 24
generator_alternator_voltage = 28
max_generator_alternator_amps = 60
avionics_bus = 0, 5 , 17.0
avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0
additional_system = 0, 2 , 17.0
marker_beacon = 0, 2 , 17.0
electric_always_available = 1

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain=0.003
inlet_area=5.500
rated_N2_rpm=59920
static_thrust=8600
afterburner_available=0
reverser_available=2

[jet_engine]
thrust_scalar=1.400

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed    = 102.0
full_flaps_stall_speed  = 92.11
cruise_speed            = 350.0
max_mach                = 0.72
max_indicated_speed     = 300

[exits]
number_of_exits = 3
exit_rate.0 = 0.1
exit_rate.1 = 0.4
exit_rate.2 = 0.4

[folding_wings]
wing_fold_system_type=4
fold_rates=0.075,0.075

[Views]
eyepoint=41.28, -1.98, 3.00

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=1500.000
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=1
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1
autothrottle_max_rpm=96.500
pitch_takeoff_ga=8.000
default_pitch_mode=0
default_bank_mode=0  
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.4
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.8
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.5
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=18000.0
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.0
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=2.20
max_bank_velocity=4.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=12.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.200000
nav_derivative_control=1.200000
nav_integrator_boundary=1.000000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.700000
gs_proportional_control=15.000000
gs_integrator_control=0.300000
gs_derivative_control=0.900000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.300000
yaw_damper_gain=0.450000

[pitot_static]
vertical_speed_time_constant=10

[direction_indicators]
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[Radios]
Audio.1=1
Com.1=1, 1
Com.2=1, 1
Nav.1=1, 1, 1
Nav.2=1, 1, 1
Adf.1=1
Transponder.1=1
Marker.1=1


[Flaps.0]
type=1
span-outboard=0.800
extending-time=4.000
system_type=1
damaging-speed=0.000
blowout-speed=0.000
lift_scalar=1.250
drag_scalar=1.500
pitch_scalar=1.000
flaps-position.0=0.000000,0.000000
flaps-position.1=18.000000,0.000000
flaps-position.2=24.000000,0.000000
flaps-position.3=30.000000,0.000000
flaps-position.4=33.000000,0.000000

[brakes]
toe_brakes_scale=1.3
parking_brake=1
differential_braking_scale =0.5

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=1
pct_throttle_limit=0.06
flap_limit_power=24.0
flap_limit_idle=18.0

[hydraulic_system]
electric_pumps=0
engine_map=1,1,1,1
normal_pressure=3100.000000

[stall_warning]
type=2

[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1

[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

Ive been editing it so i could land at ST.Barts, Toe Brakes+Reverse Thrusters were edited. And so was the takeoff thrust scalar..

I appreciate Historic Jetliners Groups aircraft and im not redistributing anything but my cfg file. Which was barely edited..

Edited by AirTotalCEO, 30 July 2009 - 10:10 AM.

[Alex_S]

Thanks AirTotal, but what is it you've edited. Are you saying the your BAe now has reverse thrust?
Thanks

Edited by OneSKY - Alex, 30 July 2009 - 10:46 AM.

[Battle_Penguin]

OneSKY - Alex, on Jul 30 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

Thanks AirTotal, but what is it you've edited. Are you saying the your BAe now has reverse thrust?
Thanks

I increased the toe brake effectiveness (Stop Sooner)

I enabled the aircraft to use reverse thrust, although it hs no reverse thruster animation.

And i increased the engine thrust, enabling it to takeoff on small airports easily (TFFJ, EGLC, etc.)

Basically a STOL BAe-146..

[Alex_S]

Ah okidokey, thanks alot. I may steal your break settings though i could do with practicing my LCY landings, just in case its my poor piloting

[Alaska_MD-83]

I've mapped reverse thrust to a key on my Joystick, right next to my spoilers. Works like a charm. I've never had good luck with arming spoilers.

[TheBigTurkey]

Bumbleass, on Jul 29 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

Please apply the autobrakes and engaged the thrust reversers and the the spoilers when you hit the ground.

Go to the Learning Center in FSX if you have it and find the Jets section, scroll all the way down the page and you see the last orange box full of typing right? Read it. And you will know. Sorry I can't copy and paste for you, it doesn't work in FSX.

F2= engage thrust reversers
Shift+/= Arm the Spoilers
Auto Brakes= Set them in your cocpit and if you don't know where, it should teel you in the Jets section again.
If it doesn't work by clicking in the cocpit, set a keyboard command for it. It has 1, 2, and 3 right? 1 is for less powerful and 3 is for
the most powerful, and sometimes you have MAX.

Hope I helped.

And you will probably have to have permission from the author before you can do changes to the plane.

You have no right to tell people how to fly planes,your a noob your self.