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[ak427]

Hey guys, I'm looking for the best i7 heatsink for my monster computer build. I've been looking for some around newegg, but because of my poor knowledge of computers in general (I'm new to this whole computer building thing, and kinda new to FS... haven't played FS much but I love aviation)

So far the ZALMAN CNPS9900LED 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler looks good from what I see:
http://www.newegg.ca...8-046-_-Product

I'm looking for the best heatsink that can overclock the i7-950 to the MAX!

thanks!!

[Buziel-411_RED]

Why did you ignore all of our advice and go for the 950 instead of the 920?

Also, I think it'd be a lot simpler if you kept it in one thread. Everyone could see all tips you're received and other info about your build.

[ak427]

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

Why did you ignore all of our advice and go for the 950 instead of the 920?

Also, I think it'd be a lot simpler if you kept it in one thread. Everyone could see all tips you're received and other info about your build.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

[Buziel-411_RED]

Also, if you're wanting to overclock it to the "max", you want want to look into something like water cooling.

Regardless, an i7 920 at 4.0GHz would handle FSX fine.

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

Why did you ignore all of our advice and go for the 950 instead of the 920?

Also, I think it'd be a lot simpler if you kept it in one thread. Everyone could see all tips you're received and other info about your build.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

Jetline Systems?

There was a discussion about the website awhile ago. The "systems" are overpriced and include overboard power, such as the i7 975, or SLI video cards, etc. A person who worked for the site got fed up with us and angrily left.

Furthermore, there is a performance boost when comparing the i7 920 at 2.66GHz to the i7 950 at 3.06GHz. If you overclocked the 920 to 3.06GHz, which is pathetically easy, that margin would close.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure if the 950 can even overclock higher than the 920. I'm thinking they'd overclock to the same speed?

[ak427]

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

Also, if you're wanting to overclock it to the "max", you want want to look into something like water cooling.

Regardless, an i7 920 at 4.0GHz would handle FSX fine.

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

Why did you ignore all of our advice and go for the 950 instead of the 920?

Also, I think it'd be a lot simpler if you kept it in one thread. Everyone could see all tips you're received and other info about your build.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

Jetline Systems?

There was a discussion about the website awhile ago. The "systems" are overpriced and include overboard power, such as the i7 975, or SLI video cards, etc. A person who worked for the site got fed up with us and angrily left.

Furthermore, there is a performance boost when comparing the i7 920 at 2.66GHz to the i7 950 at 3.06GHz. If you overclocked the 920 to 3.06GHz, which is pathetically easy, that margin would close.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure if the 950 can even overclock higher than the 920. I'm thinking they'd overclock to the same speed?

Imagine overclocking the i7-950

(edit: I heard you can overclock to 4.0 GHz on air with the 920.. imagine with an 950)
I'm trying to overclock on the 950 as much as possible on air, won't be going with watercooling... which is why I'm asking which heatsink will be best.

Edited by ak427, 24 November 2009 - 09:26 PM.

[Buziel-411_RED]

Notice the green box.

What's up with that?

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 08:25 PM, said:

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

Also, if you're wanting to overclock it to the "max", you want want to look into something like water cooling.

Regardless, an i7 920 at 4.0GHz would handle FSX fine.

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

Why did you ignore all of our advice and go for the 950 instead of the 920?

Also, I think it'd be a lot simpler if you kept it in one thread. Everyone could see all tips you're received and other info about your build.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

Jetline Systems?

There was a discussion about the website awhile ago. The "systems" are overpriced and include overboard power, such as the i7 975, or SLI video cards, etc. A person who worked for the site got fed up with us and angrily left.

Furthermore, there is a performance boost when comparing the i7 920 at 2.66GHz to the i7 950 at 3.06GHz. If you overclocked the 920 to 3.06GHz, which is pathetically easy, that margin would close.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure if the 950 can even overclock higher than the 920. I'm thinking they'd overclock to the same speed?

Imagine overclocking the i7-950

(edit: I heard you can overclock to 4.0 GHz on air with the 920.. imagine with an 950)
I'm trying to overclock on the 950 as much as possible on air, won't be going with watercooling... which is why I'm asking which heatsink will be best.

http://www.tomshardw...975,2318-3.html

The i7 975, even better than the 950, maxed at 4.12GHz.

You're paying an extra $280 for 0.12GHz.

Also from that review:

Quote

The i7-950 puts 133 MHz on its predecessor, but still remains the middle-child. At $562, the i7-950 costs $280 more than the i7-920 and runs well within reach of every 920 overclock we've ever seen—even the retail chips that have come through our lab. Thus, we're not going to spend a ton of time on the i7-950 (though you will see it in all of the benchmark charts).

Edited by Buziel-411_RED, 24 November 2009 - 09:35 PM.

[Invisiblemoose]

This will outperform that Zalman:

http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16835233029

[fighter25]

If you want to go for *THE* ultimate air cooler, go get yourself a thermalright IFX-14 and 3 Sythe Ultra Kaze 3000RPM fans, and then lap the IFX-14. That will get you the best performance for an aircooler.

[ak427]

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

It also says using RAM with Cas Latency of 7 gives a boost... is this true?

[fighter25]

Yes that is true. The X58 Core i7's really respond better to lower latencies than higher speeds.

[ak427]

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

Edited by ak427, 24 November 2009 - 10:18 PM.

[_BD6_]

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

I've already told you everything man - you don't listen do you? Its pointless getting the 950 over the 920, also pointless getting the i7-920 over the i5-750 for FSX. But whatever.

[ak427]

uber, on Nov 24 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

I've already told you everything man - you don't listen do you? Its pointless getting the 950 over the 920, also pointless getting the i7-920 over the i5-750 for FSX. But whatever.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

[Buziel-411_RED]

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 09:27 PM, said:

uber, on Nov 24 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

I've already told you everything man - you don't listen do you? Its pointless getting the 950 over the 920, also pointless getting the i7-920 over the i5-750 for FSX. But whatever.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

*Slams head on desk*

Can you not read?

The only reason there is a performance boost is because of the clock speed difference. As I showed, both i7 CPU's will max out at 4.0GHz on air cooling, destroying all performance gains.

The only reason that website has that chart is they want you to spend more cash on one of their systems loaded with a 950. If you'll compare results and bechmarks from credible sites, you'll see you're wasting $280.

But, why am I worried? It's your cash, not mine.

I'll save almost $400 on my i5 750 and get practically equal performance, thanks.

The purpose of the i7 950 is for systems that will not be overclocked, or cannot be (think prebuilt systems with a locked BIOS). They're charging you an extra $280 for a higher base clockspeed. Once you begin altering the clockspeed, the $280 turns into a waste of cash.

Edited by Buziel-411_RED, 24 November 2009 - 10:33 PM.

[VFR_Pierre]

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

uber, on Nov 24 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

I've already told you everything man - you don't listen do you? Its pointless getting the 950 over the 920, also pointless getting the i7-920 over the i5-750 for FSX. But whatever.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

The 950 is only faster because it's overclocked higher! You're comparing 2.66GHz to 3.06GHz, if they were at the same speed, the comparison would be applicable.

Plus, they say that you'd get worse performance in FS9 than FSX.

[ak427]

CAY029-Pierre, on Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

uber, on Nov 24 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

I've already told you everything man - you don't listen do you? Its pointless getting the 950 over the 920, also pointless getting the i7-920 over the i5-750 for FSX. But whatever.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

The 950 is only faster because it's overclocked higher! You're comparing 2.66GHz to 3.06GHz, if they were at the same speed, the comparison would be applicable.

Plus, they say that you'd get worse performance in FS9 than FSX.

Maybe FS9 wasn't coded to run great on quad cores?  

[Buziel-411_RED]

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 09:34 PM, said:

CAY029-Pierre, on Nov 24 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

uber, on Nov 24 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

ak427, on Nov 24 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

Apparently the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme is the top dog for an i7 heatsink... not available in Newegg.ca  

So far, thank you guys for the responses!

I've already told you everything man - you don't listen do you? Its pointless getting the 950 over the 920, also pointless getting the i7-920 over the i5-750 for FSX. But whatever.

http://www.jetlinesy...erformance.html

The 950 is only faster because it's overclocked higher! You're comparing 2.66GHz to 3.06GHz, if they were at the same speed, the comparison would be applicable.

Plus, they say that you'd get worse performance in FS9 than FSX.

Maybe FS9 wasn't coded to run great on quad cores?  

This is getting ridiculous.

An i7 at 4.0GHz is going to yield much better frames in Fs9 as opposed to FSX, regardless of the fact Fs9 only uses one core. I'd imagine you'd get frames in excess of 70 in Fs9, and around 30 in FSX. Fs9 simply isn't anywhere near as demanding as FSX.

Quit looking at the garbage information on that site, which is full of ripoff systems.

Edited by Buziel-411_RED, 24 November 2009 - 10:37 PM.

[-Dexter]

Do NOT cite aforementioned "Jetline Systems" as a reliable information resource.

He was here not too long ago in this very forum. We made a few comments about his site (the prices especially), at which point he lost his temper, stormed off, and we never saw him again.

The i7 920 offers the best bang-for-buck compared to the 950, plain and simple. Taking either CPU up to ~3.4GHz will output nearly the same performance as the other. However, if you've already put down money on that i7 950, then no worries!

Edited by pwn247, 24 November 2009 - 10:47 PM.

[Buziel-411_RED]

To sum up everything, don't get the 950.

Save that cash and buy some addons. Like this: http://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/ I reserved a section of my rig funds for REX, GEX, and a Carenado bird.

Edited by Buziel-411_RED, 24 November 2009 - 10:48 PM.

[ak427]

pwn247, on Nov 24 2009, 10:47 PM, said:

Do NOT cite aforementioned "Jetline Systems" as a reliable information resource.

He was here not too long ago in this very forum. We made a few comments about his site (the prices especially), at which point he lost his temper, stormed off, and we never saw him again.

The i7 920 offers the best bang-for-buck compared to the 950, plain and simple. Taking either CPU up to ~3.4GHz will output nearly the same performance as the other. However, if you've already put down money on that i7 950, then no worries!

Apparently, the furthest the i7 950 has gone for overclocking is apparently 4.2 GHz..  I'm sure it's possible to overclock even more while being stable. They couldn't raise another $300 on this processor for nothing!

Buziel-411_RED, on Nov 24 2009, 10:48 PM, said:

To sum up everything, don't get the 950.

Save that cash and buy some addons. Like this: http://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/ I reserved a section of my rig funds for REX, GEX, and a Carenado bird.

It's either i7 920 or i7 950... no doubt about it... just because both can be at 4.0 GHz overclocked.. I'm sure the i7 950 would be faster though?

Also, please, any recommendations for the best heatsink for my i7 950/maybe i7 920? lol