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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:45 PM

View Post162db, on Jan 8 2012, 04:39 PM, said:

Oops didn't see that you tried a GTX 480. That's strange, as you can see in the vid that guy is running smooth. AMD cpus have a stricter thermal limit than Intel so it's definitely not going to like it if temps are too high for given clock. A couple things I have to ask first. What psu are you running? What cooler are you running on the cpu?


the psu is a Coolermaster 600W. The cooler isnt very good. Temps are 50 at idle

I've just noticed that I seem to be running the RAM at 667MHz on DDR3. I beleive it should be higher than that. Could this be the problem?

Edited by suddste, 08 January 2012 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

It's running at DDR3-1333.  667 = 1333.  800 = 1600

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:14 PM

View PostToby Werner, on Jan 8 2012, 05:08 PM, said:

It's running at DDR3-1333.  667 = 1333.  800 = 1600


ive just put the ram freq up to 800mhz anyway so its higher and it ran quite well. i reckon better than before. could this be possible?

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:18 PM

What RAM do you have?  I.E. - 4GB kit of DDR2-1600 @ 1.65v etc etc

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:34 PM

View Postsuddste, on Jan 8 2012, 03:14 PM, said:

ive just put the ram freq up to 800mhz anyway so its higher and it ran quite well. i reckon better than before. could this be possible?

Seems like you have a fairly decent quality psu so that shouldn't be a problem. As for the cooler, almost sounds like stock. Never attempt to overclock on a stock cooler. That H80 you were planning on getting would be most welcome. As for the ram, yes higher ram speeds and more ram can help in FSX. 6gb ddr3 1600 mhz served me well at the time.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:41 PM

View Post162db, on Jan 8 2012, 05:34 PM, said:

Seems like you have a fairly decent quality psu so that shouldn't be a problem. As for the cooler, almost sounds like stock. Never attempt to overclock on a stock cooler. That H80 you were planning on getting would be most welcome. As for the ram, yes higher ram speeds and more ram can help in FSX. 6gb ddr3 1600 mhz served me well at the time.


I have 8GB of This RAM comming.

The RAM I currently have is 667MHz DDR3 1333 From Crucial (4GB)

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 06:05 PM

Another point. My computuer runs very well when i'm in the external view. Even with the NGX. Does this suggest a GPU bottleneck or CPU bottleneck? I just cant get my head around whats wrong here.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 06:33 PM

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 12:05 AM

View Post162db, on Jan 8 2012, 05:34 PM, said:

Seems like you have a fairly decent quality psu so that shouldn't be a problem. As for the cooler, almost sounds like stock. Never attempt to overclock on a stock cooler. That H80 you were planning on getting would be most welcome. As for the ram, yes higher ram speeds and more ram can help in FSX. 6gb ddr3 1600 mhz served me well at the time.


I've had a i7-920 at 4.2ghz.. and I can safely say my 2600k @ 4.8ghz yields me a bit more performance, much smoother across the board.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:33 PM

View Postbl00mfield, on Jan 8 2012, 10:05 PM, said:

I've had a i7-920 at 4.2ghz.. and I can safely say my 2600k @ 4.8ghz yields me a bit more performance, much smoother across the board.

Well that's a 600 mhz difference and of course most 920's can't clock past 4.2. I had mine at 4.6 on water though, paid a premium for that chip. A 600 mhz difference should yield a bit more performance. But how do you feel it does clock for clock?

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:12 PM

View Post162db, on Jan 9 2012, 08:33 PM, said:

Well that's a 600 mhz difference and of course most 920's can't clock past 4.2. I had mine at 4.6 on water though, paid a premium for that chip. A 600 mhz difference should yield a bit more performance. But how do you feel it does clock for clock?
In fsx its ~5 fps.. in Vegas it renders much quicker.. but exactly by how much I can't tell you. The point here is it will definitely beat the Phenom 965 convincingly.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:30 PM

View Postbl00mfield, on Jan 9 2012, 09:12 PM, said:

In fsx its ~5 fps.. in Vegas it renders much quicker.. but exactly by how much I can't tell you. The point here is it will definitely beat the Phenom 965 convincingly.


In FSX?

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 10:26 PM

Yes

Edited by Toby Werner, 10 January 2012 - 10:27 PM.
Edit: As well as everything else


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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:43 PM

hi, well ive installed everything. The only thing is when i stress test the cpu with prime95 the temps shoot straight up to 95-100 degrees. Ive checked the fans and they are working etc. I reckon some of the thermal paste has rubbed off onto me. Could this be what it is? At idle it seems to clock down to about 1600Mhz and tdmps are about 40 degrees then

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:48 PM

View Postsuddste, on Jan 11 2012, 12:43 PM, said:

hi, well ive installed everything. The only thing is when i stress test the cpu with prime95 the temps shoot straight up to 95-100 degrees. Ive checked the fans and they are working etc. I reckon some of the thermal paste has rubbed off onto me. Could this be what it is? At idle it seems to clock down to about 1600Mhz and tdmps are about 40 degrees then
at stock clocks? too high. I would clean off paste and reapply.. pea sized blob in the middle. then reseat the cooler. Clocking down is normal and is to save power.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 03:19 PM

View Postbl00mfield, on Jan 11 2012, 01:48 PM, said:

at stock clocks? too high. I would clean off paste and reapply.. pea sized blob in the middle. then reseat the cooler. Clocking down is normal and is to save power.


I reseated it and now got 30 degrees idle on 4.3GHz and 50 deg on super pi :hrmm:

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:50 PM

Hi, well I found it clocks well to 4.6GHz without touching the voltages and just using the multiplier. When I go to 4.7GHz the system freezes instantly the change has been applied. Is this down the getting the correct voltages? the temps were fine. If it is the voltages what voltages should I increase to to get higher than 4.6GHz

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:59 PM

View Postsuddste, on Jan 11 2012, 06:50 PM, said:

Hi, well I found it clocks well to 4.6GHz without touching the voltages and just using the multiplier. When I go to 4.7GHz the system freezes instantly the change has been applied. Is this down the getting the correct voltages? the temps were fine. If it is the voltages what voltages should I increase to to get higher than 4.6GHz
You should be doing changes in the bios.. what are you using?

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 07:14 PM

View Postbl00mfield, on Jan 11 2012, 06:59 PM, said:

You should be doing changes in the bios.. what are you using?


I tried in the BIOS...I just kept getting messages telling me to do it on the OS

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 07:31 PM

MAnually set the multi to 47 in the BIOS and just for the heck of it, give the cpu 1.30v.  If you have an option to enable Load Line Calibration, enable it.  See if it loads into windows and passes stress tests.  If it does, you can try multi of 48.  Might have to use 1.34 or more who knows.  Just watch temps.