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[G-BOAC]

I was thinking of this if i could set up a live Heathrow Streaming feed of them approaching EGLL when 27R,27L is active.
I think it would be great if i could get a HD camera and have a Live feed during the day.
Bettween 7 and 11 or something like that. I could get a website and set up a live feed anyone be able to tell me if it is illegal and if it's not how do i set it up i was just thinking of this Imagine wathcing live EGLL Traffic.
Yippe.

[Kenny.]

Why do you need that when you can live under Heathrow flight path (like me)  

[WF10]

sweet Idea! I'd like that! and the Radar thing you can get to track them... sounds good!  

[G-BOAC]

Is it Illegal.

[Jayhawk]

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 05:55 PM, said:

Is it Illegal.

Wouldn't suprise me,

Its a good Idea, but it would cost you alot, I mean HD camera, Server capable to stream it fast enough, probably would last a week thou, can bet the camera would get stolen

[Amaranth]

That would be really good. Not sure about the legality of it.

[G-BOAC]

Jayhawk, on Aug 29 2007, 05:43 PM, said:

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 05:55 PM, said:

Is it Illegal.

Wouldn't suprise me,

Its a good Idea, but it would cost you alot, I mean HD camera, Server capable to stream it fast enough, probably would last a week thou, can bet the camera would get stolen

I want to know though it should be legal though becuase it's not live ATC broadcast so im thinking it's okey.

Maybe i could do it for say 50p a month for a little while to i get my money back.

[Navy2]

Live ATC is not illegal, ever heard of Liveatc.net

Edited by Interwebs, 29 August 2007 - 02:07 PM.

[G-BOAC]

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:06 PM, said:

Live ATC is not illegal, ever heard of Liveatc.net

Live atc in the uk is illegal due to the 1949 telegraphy act 1949 after the war.

Check it up dude.

[Chief_Bean]

Jayhawk, on Aug 29 2007, 05:43 PM, said:

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 05:55 PM, said:

Is it Illegal.

Wouldn't suprise me,

Its a good Idea, but it would cost you alot, I mean HD camera, Server capable to stream it fast enough, probably would last a week thou, can bet the camera would get stolen

I bet someone from this forum who despises him would go and steal all the equipment

You'd probably see on the webcam, about 10 forum members fighting over who gets to steal it

[Navy2]

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 12:14 PM, said:

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:06 PM, said:

Live ATC is not illegal, ever heard of Liveatc.net

Live atc in the uk is illegal due to the 1949 telegraphy act 1949 after the war.

Check it up dude.

Then  I guess spotting isn't not that great in the United Kingdom  

Edited by Interwebs, 29 August 2007 - 02:28 PM.

[bigflyersmallbyer]

It is an offence to listen to any other radio services unless you are authorised by a designated person to do so.

There are two offences under law:

Under Section 5(1)( of the WT Act 1949 it is an offence if a person "otherwise than under the authority of a designated person,

either:

(i) uses any wireless telegraphy apparatus with intent to obtain information as to the contents, sender or addressee of any message whether sent by means of wireless telegraphy or not, of which neither the person using the apparatus nor a person on whose behalf he is acting is an intended recipient;

This means that it is illegal to listen to anything other than general reception transmissions unless you are either a licensed user of the frequencies in question or have been specifically authorised to do so by a designated person. A designated person means:

   1. the Secretary of State;
   2. the Commissioners of Customs and Excise; or
   3. any other person designated for the purpose by regulations made by the Secretary of State.

or:

(ii) except in the course of legal proceedings or for the purpose of any report thereof, discloses any information as to the contents, sender or addressee of any such message, being information which would not have come to his knowledge but for the use of wireless telegraphy apparatus by him or by another person."

This means that it is also illegal to tell a third party what you have heard.

With certain exceptions, it is an offence under Section 1 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 for a person - "intentionally and without lawful authority to intercept, at any place in the United Kingdom, any communication in the course of its transmission by means of:

   1. a public postal service; or
   2. a public telecommunication system."

It is similarly an offence to intercept any communication in the course of its transmission by means of a private telecommunication system.

This means that it is illegal to listen to telephone calls, including mobile phone networks which are designated as forming part of the public telecommunications system.

Common questions answered

Q. Am I breaking the law by owning a scanner?

A. No, but it is illegal to use one to listen to frequencies other than general reception transmissions or those parts of the radio spectrum which your transmitting licence, if you have one, allows you to use. You could be prosecuted for this.

Q. Can I get a licence to use a scanner?

A. No, there is no scanner licence.

Q. Could I get authority to listen to emergency service transmissions, for example? I am interested and might be able to help.

A. No, authority is reserved for people acting under statutory authority. If you wish to listen in to messages, you should obtain the permission of the person sending them.

Q. Isn't it all right to listen as long as I don't pass on what I hear?

A. No, using radio equipment to listen in, except as provided by section 5(1)( of the WT Act, is an offence, regardless of whether the information is passed on.

Q. Isn't this all a bit heavy?

A. No. No-one likes their private or business conversations to be listened to. Parliament has passed these laws to protect the privacy of radio users.

http://www.ofcom.org..._info/ra169.htm

Edited by bigflyersmallbyer, 29 August 2007 - 02:39 PM.

[Navy2]

Mhmh..interesting, in the US I can listen to Nextel Radios..

[MattGarner]

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:23 PM, said:

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 12:14 PM, said:

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:06 PM, said:

Live ATC is not illegal, ever heard of Liveatc.net

Live atc in the uk is illegal due to the 1949 telegraphy act 1949 after the war.

Check it up dude.

Then  I guess spotting isn't not that great in the United Kingdom  

You can listen to ATC. By our air brand scanners.

[G-BOAC]

sarge, on Aug 29 2007, 09:10 PM, said:

A L I, on Aug 29 2007, 03:49 PM, said:

no it's not lee's one,

I didn't say it was; I said it looks and functions like Lee's program.  Even the ParkingSpecs.txt file is nearly identical.  Looks like someone took Lee's code for FS9, adapted it to also function with FSX, added Vladimir Slovoba's CreatSign, and incorporated an XML routine to write exclusion zones.  The main screen (except for button placements on the top toolbar) is the same as Lee's program, even the main screen coloring is the same.

It IS a new product, but -- as I said -- it looks and functions like Lee's AFCAD program.  AFCAD users who decide to pay for the program should have no problem transitioning.  (Konstantin is a university student in Munich, Germany and does work for Abacus Software.)

MattGarner, on Aug 29 2007, 09:26 PM, said:

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:23 PM, said:

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 12:14 PM, said:

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:06 PM, said:

Live ATC is not illegal, ever heard of Liveatc.net

Live atc in the uk is illegal due to the 1949 telegraphy act 1949 after the war.

Check it up dude.

Then  I guess spotting isn't not that great in the United Kingdom  

You can listen to ATC. By our air brand scanners.

Tell me how do i listen LINK PLEeassssssssssseee

[Wokhead]

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 07:43 PM, said:

MattGarner, on Aug 29 2007, 09:26 PM, said:

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:23 PM, said:

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 29 2007, 12:14 PM, said:

Interwebs, on Aug 29 2007, 08:06 PM, said:

Live ATC is not illegal, ever heard of Liveatc.net

Live atc in the uk is illegal due to the 1949 telegraphy act 1949 after the war.

Check it up dude.

Then  I guess spotting isn't not that great in the United Kingdom  

You can listen to ATC. By our air brand scanners.

Tell me how do i listen LINK PLEeassssssssssseee

You need an airband scanner!

[EZY174]

If you buy a good camera, and ensure that it can somehow be in a safe place then i think it would be an amazing idea! Would cost a fair bit though!

[G-BOAC]

EZY174, on Aug 29 2007, 11:15 PM, said:

If you buy a good camera, and ensure that it can somehow be in a safe place then i think it would be an amazing idea! Would cost a fair bit though!

I would have to charge subciption fee look how many people would want to watch it i could be the next perso to say.

Next Year Rodney we will be billionares

No serious i would be very cheap say £10 a year membership Unlimited access to it and Free videos and that.

I may do this but should i write to the goverment.

Edited by SpeedbirdVirtual, 29 August 2007 - 06:08 PM.

[Locstar]

SpeedbirdVirtual, on Aug 30 2007, 02:06 AM, said:

EZY174, on Aug 29 2007, 11:15 PM, said:

If you buy a good camera, and ensure that it can somehow be in a safe place then i think it would be an amazing idea! Would cost a fair bit though!

I would have to charge subciption fee look how many people would want to watch it i could be the next perso to say.

Next Year Rodney we will be billionares

No serious i would be very cheap say £10 a year membership Unlimited access to it and Free videos and that.

I may do this but should i write to the goverment.

of course you should not charge money because then we can shut you down easily.

[Navy2]

But hey said an Airband scanner in the uk is illegal