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[Sam Millar]

Controller: Negative sir Initial Alt 6000ft.
Pilot: Thats what I said, didn't I?
Controller: Negative sir, you said FL60.
Controller (after a while): Sir a readback is required.
Pilot: Roger initial alt 6000ft.
Controller: Sir, a full read back is required.
Pilot: 1 mo pls.
Controller; rgr sir at your discretion.
Pilot: Ok you know what i start from beginning
Pilot: You know what im disconnecting bloody , going to relax.
Controller: Yeah go read VATSIM PRC bye sir.

Just after I landed, I folded over with laughter.

[MattGarner]

LMAO. Best thing I heard all day.

[BAW128]

Uh oh

[Pierre.]

What was the TA?

[Daniel Brennan]

Whiskey Delta, on May 5 2008, 07:19 AM, said:

Controller: Negative sir Initial Alt 6000ft.
Pilot: Thats what I said, didn't I?
Controller: Negative sir, you said FL60.
Controller (after a while): Sir a readback is required.
Pilot: Roger initial alt 6000ft.
Controller: Sir, a full read back is required.
Pilot: 1 mo pls.
Controller; rgr sir at your discretion.
Pilot: Ok you know what i start from beginning
Pilot: You know what im disconnecting bloody , going to relax.
Controller: Yeah go read VATSIM PRC bye sir.

Just after I landed, I folded over with laughter.

Not exactly what I said but hey, he was instructed FL60 initially, he read back 6000', I replied negative FL60, then he replied FL6000 to which I replied negative that will take you out of the atmosphere.
He then proceeded to on freq. saying I spoke too quick, I even typed the clearance on text so there was no escaping error.
He then said in a awful tone : Roger EGJJ compton 3 dept. initial Fl60 sqk 7775 and taxi short C1 E1 runway 33 is that any good?" Which resulted in: "Negative."
He then later said "You know what I'm leaving the session now tower to relax" with an awful attitude to which I said "Roger have a nice day and read the P.R.C". This pilot has got to have had the worst attitude I have come accross.

I would ask that pilot to educate himself in people communication skills before being arsey with me again as it just won't work.
Daniel

Edited by Daniel Brennan, 05 May 2008 - 08:13 AM.

[SetClimbThrust]

haha thats quite funny you joined to tell us that, i wish i was there it isnt hard to read a clearance back especially when you wrote it on text!

[Sam Millar]

LOL Daniel, well said (Y)

[Daniel Brennan]

Yeah I sure did! ;-) Thought i'd browse these forums as well and came accross my own incident with an idiot of a pilot.
Also after having some plonker close on the wrong runway-ahhh VATSIM the love of nmy life ;-)

Edited by Daniel Brennan, 05 May 2008 - 08:34 AM.

[SeatsForLanding]

Just another reason why pilots should have to go through the same process as controllers before they're let loose.

[SetClimbThrust]

haha i know that is pretty funny that you found your own incident

[Sam Millar]

Daniel Brennan, on May 5 2008, 02:33 PM, said:

Yeah I sure did! ;-) Thought i'd browse these forums as well and came accross my own incident with an idiot of a pilot.
Also after having some plonker close on the wrong runway-ahhh VATSIM the love of nmy life ;-)

Yeah I remember that to, he established for rwy 15

[Bman.]

You guys make me scared to fly in locations that have actual ATC!

I am a hack newb on Vatsim for sure.  Have read the PRC several times...done a couple of flights but still afraid I am going to screw it up.

However, I am sure it comes down to attitude.  When I do screw up the ATC communication (which is always) the controllers are quick to help me out as needed.

As far as training, I am all for it.  is ZLA still the choice location for pilot training or has Vatsim kicked off the official training grounds of some sort?

Bman.
Vatsim - 987241

[Daniel Brennan]

You'll find most if not all controllers are friendly people and WILL help you unless you are stuck at a busy London-Heathrow, that's just asking for trouble, but the attitude and the tone I was in receipt of was just disgusting.

[RossBurke]

lol don't you just love pilots like that!

[mistahmiles]

VATSIM just takes practice; I was probably like this when I started out.

[Navy2]

The British controllers down at ZLA are a-holes.

[JohnnyC]

Navy2, on May 5 2008, 11:54 PM, said:

The British controllers down at ZLA are a-holes.

LOL!

[Flightsimulatorpilot]

Default ATC FTMFW!!

[jeff_w_YEG]

For the most part, my experiences with VATSIM have been positive - so much so that I almost do all my flying on-line.  However, I have run into a couple of total a-holes...I had a negative experience coming into LAX once (I missed a call and didn't descend quick enough - totally my fault, I admit - and the controller yelled at me with a "I'M THE CONTROLLER AND YOU'LL DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO!!!" over the radio) and once coming into Dallas-Love Field - apparently the arrival STAR I'd selected wasn't the correct one (even though I was following an active flight plan from flightaware.com) and it was going to take me through a heavy traffic approach for DFW.

That being said, I had a great experience with a controller from Boise, Idaho...he had such a relaxed attitude (I think he was just happy to have some traffic...ha ha!).

Jeff @ YEG

[03SVTCobra]

jeff_w_YEG, on May 6 2008, 11:40 PM, said:

For the most part, my experiences with VATSIM have been positive - so much so that I almost do all my flying on-line.  However, I have run into a couple of total a-holes...I had a negative experience coming into LAX once (I missed a call and didn't descend quick enough - totally my fault, I admit - and the controller yelled at me with a "I'M THE CONTROLLER AND YOU'LL DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO!!!" over the radio) and once coming into Dallas-Love Field - apparently the arrival STAR I'd selected wasn't the correct one (even though I was following an active flight plan from flightaware.com) and it was going to take me through a heavy traffic approach for DFW.

That being said, I had a great experience with a controller from Boise, Idaho...he had such a relaxed attitude (I think he was just happy to have some traffic...ha ha!).

Jeff @ YEG

All STARs at KDAL for North approaches are heavy traffic approaches. There is one where you come in across Dallas, out to the north and then turn 180 back for the runway. This stays out of KDFW's way. However there is an approach for KDAL where you fly with KDFW traffic for about 5 minutes. Instead of turning for final at KDFW you split off and hit one more waypoint before final for KDAL.

DFW is a confusing airspace.