35 replies to this topic

[Captain-Amar]

Hi

I saw this:

http://www.airliners....file/721699/L/

No antenne and Localizer and glideslope.

And in FS i have no ILS

So does TNCM have an ILS or not??

[Jayhawk]

Don't think so....But I could be wrong.

[Andrewsarchus]

From what I've heard, no, TNCM does not have an ILS.
And, do you want an ILS for TNCM? There's an addon which ads an ILS freq to the airport, so it says. I haven't tried it.

Edited by Andrewsarchus, 27 July 2006 - 07:48 AM.

[coffeebeans]

I don't think TNCM has an ILS system due to the fact that the weather is generally always nice, and there is a lack of space to store the equiptment securely. TNCM does, however, have a VOR.

[SargeJr3]

ILS would require equipment wwaaay the ###### out to sea, not that it can't be done, but it's  not really worth it there.

[Captain-Amar]

Oke guys i got it.

No I didn't want an ILS on tncm i was just wondering.    

[C172pilot]

It has a VOR and a wonderful Visual approach :-)

Edited by C172pilot, 27 July 2006 - 10:55 AM.

[FL050]

scavers, on Jul 27 2006, 08:53 AM, said:

ILS would require equipment wwaaay the ###### out to sea, not that it can't be done, but it's  not really worth it there.

How is it out to sea?

Localizer is at the approach end of the runway and the glideslope is at the departure end...

[ZRHSpotter]

Guys,

TNCM does NOT have an ILS. It has a VOR approach and that is it.

http://www.arubaavia...om/SXMVOR09.pdf

Sam,

[Pattyboy10]

As I fly into Beatrix reguarly in our cessna 182, I'm pretty familiar with the airport.

SXM does not have an ILS system, we do have an VOR and an NDB (ADF)...
SXM does know bad weather, look at an ALM crash earlier, they had to abort landing 3 times or something, and finally had to continue to another airport when they ran out of fuel, and believe me, it can get really nasty here!

The reason we don't have an ILS in SXM is because of the procedeures. I understoon they didn't install one, because of the go-around/missed approach procedures. Because of the hill it won't be safe to execute a Go around or a missed approach safely.

Though the VOR/NDB approach we use when the weather is nasty is pretty good. If you execute it well there won't be any problem and a safe landing will be made...

The case of the KLM 744 pic you included, it was discussed in the newspapers here as an extreme dangerous approach... Believe me the pilot wouldnt have done it on purpose as many of the pilots here in the forum know its pretty diffucult to land an plane at the exact beginning of an airfield!

Hope I explained something, ask any questions, I'll try to answer them for you

[Pattyboy10]

oops sorry about the klm 744 thing I put in, little messed up in my head, but I think you know of it though  

[Pattyboy10]

lol i answered everything and now no ones looking at it haha

[Element94]

I'm suprised TNCM doesn't have a RNAV approach, what with RNP 2.0 nowadays...

Oh well, Mins for VOR approaches are pretty low. If you can't land at TNCM, you could always divert to TJSJ (San Juan), or TNCC (Curacao).

They've got plenty of approaches there!

-Element94

[Vlad]

FL050, on Jul 27 2006, 01:57 PM, said:

Localizer is at the approach end of the runway and the glideslope is at the departure end...

They're both the same end!

[googlerSA]

Element94, on Jul 29 2006, 06:58 AM, said:

I'm suprised TNCM doesn't have a RNAV approach, what with RNP 2.0 nowadays...

Oh well, Mins for VOR approaches are pretty low. If you can't land at TNCM, you could always divert to TJSJ (San Juan), or TNCC (Curacao).

They've got plenty of approaches there!

-Element94

not sure, what is RNAV?

yeh i've flown TNCM its a VORDME i think, it doesn't line you up either, you gotta do it mostly yourself but erm i like autopilot  

[airlinepilote]

Simple:

TNCM

A VOR/DME Approach runway 09 ONLY, runway 27 is not used for landing
And a visual on runway 09

Runway 09 has a PAPI, but that is just for the visuals so they don't cut some heads of people..  

[TomohawK]

Yeah, TNCM has a VOR/NDB approach if need be, no ILS in real ops. But a very nice visual  

[N3123V]

googlerSA, on Jul 29 2006, 09:06 AM, said:

not sure, what is RNAV?

RNAV would be a GPS approach. It could only be used with an onboard computer such as an FMC or an actual GPS.

[mustang9]

If somebody wants to have an ILS @ TNCM, just send me a PM and I will send u the download link.

Its only being tested in FlyTampa TNCM.

Check my vid:
TNCM ILS

[mhockey21]

Thank you for bumping this 5 year old thread.