FlyFX, on Jun 27 2008, 02:06 PM, said:
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 11:14 AM
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 04:23 PM
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:13 AM
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 09:18 AM
I was thinking about the whole process required to set up a successful VA and saw that although required standards have gone up, I think that we all are forgetting our origins. Most newborn VA's tend to be run by people who are not up to the task of paying up to the expenses needed to set up what is defined as a "va-with-a-future" - also known as "non freewebs and similar free providers". To put it simply, not everyone can take the whole load of paying for a .com account - and sometimes, the professionals too cannot be up to the task. I know that because I've been through all that I'm saying. I've seen Air Malta virtual close because of budget problems and I've had a tough time trying to set up a VA on freewebs and the answer always returned a "no-go".
However, I looked into the coloured histroy of a VA I joined for a short time and saw that in time, it too had been a freewebs based VA. My question is: did the forums evolve to become intolerant of Freewebs; Or is it that many tend to forget the crucial detail that not everyone can afford to pay?
Anyways, I hope that forum users make it a tendency to be more tolerant and constructive. The VA industry is not an easy one, that's true; but when one fails because of an agreesive "room mate", the aggression will tend to spread and harm the rest.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 01:31 PM
Kreu, on Aug 7 2008, 10:18 AM, said:
With respect, but web hosting has grown to be so much of a commodity these days that this is not a significant barrier to entry for anyone who's truly serious abut their project. Look, a domain costs less than $10 a year. Hosting can be had for just a few dollars a month. There's no excuse to do a free site nowadays, especially not one with ads, popups and other junk.
What it does signify to your user base is that you are not serious and not willing to invest in your VA. You are asking potential users to invest their time and energies in you, but conveying a lack of investment and commitment of your own. That is a recipe for being passed over. There are plenty of VAs who show the signs of significant investment; pilots will gravitate there because there's less risk for them.
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Most VAs fail for a simple reason - their creators do not have the necessarily skills, capital or commitment. No VA ever failed because of criticism on a message forum. I don't think there's room for rudeness, but at the same time Virtual Airlines are IMO harmed more by the perception that they are all run by clueless kids who have no idea what they're doing, and abandon the project in three weeks when they get bored. It's not a valid perception (the most successful VAs are all administered by grownups) but one that forums like this help perpetuate.
Cheers!
Luke
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Posted 10 August 2008 - 04:49 AM
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Posted 24 September 2008 - 06:52 AM
Monte
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:26 PM
#32
Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:06 PM
This just causes flame wars that aren't needed
Monte
#33
Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:11 PM
Monte, on Oct 27 2008, 05:06 PM, said:
This just causes flame wars that aren't needed
Monte
Jebus, on Oct 27 2008, 05:03 PM, said:
This also happened and I don't get why he posted this???
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:12 PM
Edited by FlightSimmer0724, 27 October 2008 - 05:14 PM.
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:58 PM
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This just causes flame wars that aren't needed
Monte
This happened in mine to and it turned into a full blown war!!! i just don't see why people do these things
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 03:00 PM
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 01:42 AM
Jack.
#39
Posted 04 January 2009 - 01:33 AM
There are a couple of other accounts on close watch, so keep your noses clean folks. We have simple rules around here - nothing fancy. Treat others the way you'd want them to treat your mom and you'll be fine.
#40
Posted 04 January 2009 - 03:13 AM
I remember, before joining FSW, I would always look here and there were never many issues.
Once I did, I saw things get worse.
I just hope things can get back to the way they were!