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#21 TheNorthFace

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:03 AM

TechnicolorYawn, on Aug 6 2004, 02:58 PM, said:

Yes. In fact why don't we all get one. While we're at it I'd like a Ferrari 550 and a big pair of boobs full of beer as well.... :o
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:07 AM

AGP enabled or not won't make a lick of difference... your video is on-board and so doesn't make use of the AGP bus. It is entirely possible that your motherboard does not have a AGP slot, but it may still show up in BIOS since the same BIOS may be used on a budget board that doesn't have the slot. To be sure, take the side (left side) panel off the case and look for a row of white slots, above that and slghtly off-set there should be a brown slot... if not you don't have AGP and would be limited to a PCI based video card for upgrading.
http://www.newegg.co...-127-170-01.JPG
As for your CPU, you could upgrade to a P4, 478 pin with a 533Mhz Front Side Bus. The i845, depending on if it is an early board or not, may even support PC2700 or PC3200 but may require a bios flash. Contact your PC manufacturer to be sure.

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Edited by CoffeeBreakPro, 07 August 2004 - 08:08 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:25 AM

i do have an empty brown slot like in them pics,,, is that good?
EDIT
and when u say onboard,,, do you mean its a part of my motherboard?

Edited by borin_teen, 07 August 2004 - 08:26 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:40 AM

borin_teen, on Aug 7 2004, 08:25 AM, said:

i do have an empty brown slot like in them pics,,, is that good?
EDIT
and when u say onboard,,, do you mean its a part of my motherboard?
Yes, brown slot = good. And yes, on-board means integrated, which also means in may be using system memory. Do you have an idea of what your upgrade budget may be? I can suggest some compnonants if you like.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:53 AM

uhh... cheap as possible.. lol i don't have a clue how much thesethings r...

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:55 AM

cheap as possible. A 9600 XT is pretty cheap in the UK
The CPU is pretty cheap t, the 2.6Ghz 533mhz FSB

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:56 AM

will it make flight sim look real?

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 08:57 AM

grab one of a 9600 pro/XT from here http://www.overclock...600_Series.html

thats the graphics card that goes in the AGP slot!
Now I'll go search for the CPU

edit- look on that web page- On a budget these 2 are quite good
PowerColor/Mediamax ATI Radeon 9600 Pro EZ 256MB DDR TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-012-PC)
£85

PowerColor ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB DDR DVI/TV-Out (AGP) - Retail (GX-023-PC)
£117

Ok i found the CPU
http://www.savastore...70&pid=45&tid=2


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Edited by mul, 07 August 2004 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:09 AM

is this one any good, i have a big magazine, its huge (CPC) full of everything!

Radeon 9200SE
TV OUT (tick)
DVI OUT (TICK)
128MB

Up to 2048X1536
all with agp 8X interface
featuring smarthshader, smoothvision, Charisma engine II, HyerZ II technologies and more

£42.50 + VAT

Radeon 9600SE
TV OUT (tick)
DVI OUT (TICK)
128MB

Up to 2048X1536
all with agp 8X interface
featuring smarthshader, smoothvision, Charisma engine II, HyerZ II technologies and more


£57.50+VAT

what is the difference between these two apart from their name???

anyway r they any good?

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:10 AM

I would avoid ATI's SE's. All the deformed and bad performing components go in the SE's....

The 9600 pro or 9600 XT is a good choice.

Don't get the 9200. It is not made for direct X 9

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:12 AM

Avoid any Ati card that is an SE model as they seriously suck, as they are higher spec  component rejects that are sold as low spec editions.

Go for a 9600Pro at least or FX5700 minimum.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:13 AM

heres one on the page i showed on my previus post:

PowerColor ATI Radeon 9600 256MB DDR TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-027-PC)
£49.94 . At least its not an SE

I would really recommend a 9600 XT if you can stretch that far!
Don't forget you need a better CPU as well costing around £100

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:23 AM

this aint lookin too good...

so... whats the cpu,, i know what it does,, i just don't know where and what it looks like are there any pics?

someone sed get a fx5700xt -- well the fx5600xt's are 100quid+VAT cpu  £100 inc vat... £200 jus to play a game!?

... this really aint lookin good.. lol

Edited by borin_teen, 07 August 2004 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:29 AM

chances are ill just go on ebay see if theres anything cheap

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:32 AM

is this any good?
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...ssPageName=WDVW

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 11:02 AM

borin_teen, on Aug 7 2004, 09:32 AM, said:

What is it? I can't access that site as I am at work and that URL (anything with 'e-bay' in it lol) is blocked.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 11:11 AM

That looks a bit dodgey for me, a 9600 for 18 quid or 35 US Dollars and it's made my a company called Peak.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 12:05 PM

that and it won't be yours for £18. YOu need to place a bid and could easily go up to about 90% of the value of it, new!

>someone sed get a fx5700xt -- well the fx5600xt's are 100quid+VAT cpu £100 >inc vat... £200 jus to play a game!?

Nope, in the upcoming months, all the games will require higher specs!

The 5700XT is about the equivalent of a standard 9600 or 9600 SE.
The CPU, can be picked up from online shops and possibly pcworld but it would be at an inflated price.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 12:09 PM

ok here is the lowest it could go:


Thats the CPU- £97.51
http://www.savastore...70&pid=45&tid=2


PowerColor ATI Radeon 9600 256MB DDR TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-027-PC)
£49.94 from overclockers.co.uk

that is about £147.45
This will give your system another push of life for games for at least 6 to 12 months

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 12:09 PM

You paid Microsoft HOW MUCH TO TALK TO THEM?