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#41 borin_teen

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 02:28 PM

lol was a jk 8p a min 16 mins

#42 borin_teen

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 10:57 AM

so whats a cpu?????

WHAT IS IT?

can i replace wo a new mother board, is it hardware is it software? is it anything?


please explain!

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 11:27 AM

borin_teen, on Aug 8 2004, 10:57 AM, said:

so whats a cpu?????

WHAT IS IT?

can i replace wo a new mother board, is it hardware is it software? is it anything?


please explain!
Your really gonna need this site - http://computer.hows...roprocessor.htm


Here a a few pics.  The first is a motherboard, the white square is where the CPU goes. The other two pics are of a Intel P4 CPU and a AMD XP Barton CPU.


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#44 Mul.

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 01:01 PM

u can replace the motherboard but it won't fit in your HP case, and will add to the cost by another £150 at least/most

Everything inside your desktop is hardware. Software consists of operating systems, drivers to make hardware run, and things like applications and games.

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 01:11 PM

so the cpu is a small clip on chip to the motherboard?

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 01:19 PM

no the cpu is the chip that goes in that square slot in the motherboard.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 06:13 AM

which is pretty much what i just said... but ok...

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 06:17 AM

k, i may hav misunderstood what you sed. LOL

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 06:33 AM

which do u think is more urgent? CPU or Radeon thingey?

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 01:07 PM

honestly both but go with the CPU first. The graphics card would be overkill for your current CPU

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 07:06 PM

Borin teen, you are still confused after 4 pages. Its very obvious. So lets help you out.

You're graphics Card is the card that sticks up in the board roughly in the middle of you motherboard. Its slot, an AGP slot, is probably a different colour from the rest of the slots that hold cards, probably brown and its the one thats never in line with the others, pushed slightly back with a retaining clip on the end. Your graphics card takes care of pushing and creating 3D images on your screen, its dedicated to it because of a certain instruction set it has on board within its chip. So its the best for games and more urgent in my opinion because your processor will certainly not do as good a job as its not dedicated to games as such but much more so 2D applications like Word, Excel, MP3 encoding number crunching etc. even if it is overkill for the moment.  Your processor does help but only very slightly.

Now these are the facts:
- Graphics Cards - designed for applications/games that are heavy on 3D images or objects such as FS2004 etc.

- Processor - designed for 2D applications such as Word, Excel, Powerpoint, MP3 encoding etc. Things that don't involve 3D objects as such.

Now, I apologise if you already know any of this and you find it offensive that I am being a know all which I definitley am not, but you seem a bit lost in the world of technology like I was when I built my first machine. There is too much choice out there and two many things under the side panel. But good luck

Edited by jward, 09 August 2004 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 10 August 2004 - 06:07 AM

im not confused.... lol

its just that im used to my windows 98, we had it for 5 years,,, untill i exploded it, so im just double checking that everythings ok, and that i don't do the same to the pc im on now.

before i was just checking which i needed most urgently, because id have to save up, buy one, save up, buy the other...

mul says cpu, you say graphics card...


thats helpful... lol...

ok,,,

TY for help everyone.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 07:29 AM

JWARD thats well and good that graphics cards are for 3D applications but to an extent graphics cards rely on a good CPU to go with it, and will cause crashes if there isn' a good CPU in or a good PSU.

The simple fact is that a celery processor is not enough for a decent graphics card. The CPU is more essential. You won't see better results in graphics but the performance will rise A lot. Once that is soted get the graphics card.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 07:33 AM

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 07:57 AM

I've just seen what borin teen's processor is. For some reason I thought it was a better machine. Would a low-end processor really cause a higher-end graphics card to crash. I didn't think so anyway.

What is his graphics card?

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 08:05 AM

jward, on Aug 10 2004, 01:57 PM, said:

I've just seen what borin teen's processor is. For some reason I thought it was a better machine. Would a low-end processor really cause a higher-end graphics card to crash. I didn't think so anyway.

What is his graphics card?
No it won't cause it to crash it will just prevent the graphics card from being able to work to its full potential.

E.g.  

a 1.5ghz celeron and 9800Pro will give 35fps in a game
      
where as a 2.2Ghz AMD 64 and 9800Pro will give 80fps in a game.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 09:49 AM

Hmmmmm....

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 10:09 AM

not sure really. Eiher way there will  be a bottleneck but which way round wud there be smaller botleneck?

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 10:11 AM

mul, on Aug 10 2004, 04:09 PM, said:

not sure really. Eiher way there will  be a bottleneck but which way round wud there be smaller botleneck?

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he would see a good improvement with a better processor and 1Gb of ram.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 10:15 AM

thought so...

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