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[jetblast787]

89-LX, on Feb 13 2009, 05:38 AM, said:

RIP to all. This is why pilots want better pay. Someone goes wrong, and this is what happens.

how can you say something like that in this present time?!

RIP to all

[Liam.]

Better audio cut:


RIP, I guess God needed a pilot.

Edited by Liam., 13 February 2009 - 06:38 AM.

[George Bush]

Terrible, tragic, terrible. RIP . A bad week for aviation-there were several tragic air crashed yesterday aswell.

[_haphadon_]

Not good RIP.

[Buziel-411_RED]

RIP

Sounds like icing to me...

[_haphadon_]

Its now reported 50 have died. It was a pilot going to Buffalo

[suddste]

R.I.P

[Mohammad]

RIP!

[89-LX]

Iranair747, on Feb 13 2009, 05:15 AM, said:

89-LX, on Feb 13 2009, 05:38 AM, said:

RIP to all. This is why pilots want better pay. Someone goes wrong, and this is what happens.

how can you say something like that in this present time?!

RIP to all

How can I say it? Managment and everyone claims that pilots are under worked and over paid. If you listen, what happened here happened in a matter is seconds. The point is that every day we start that airplane, from a C150 to a BA380, we risk our lives. No one appreciates the job that pilots do, and all they think is pilots are over paid people and it pisses me off.

And I don't wanna ehar this present time stuff. When you are in the aviation field, you will lose friends to accidents. I have, and I'm still young. You learn to deal with these situations as they are bound to happen in the aviation field.

[_NW_]

89-LX, on Feb 13 2009, 08:50 AM, said:

And I don't wanna ehar this present time stuff. When you are in the aviation field, you will lose friends to accidents. I have, and I'm still young. You learn to deal with these situations as they are bound to happen in the aviation field.

Yup, I've lost 2 friends who were both pilots..  one was natural death, the other was as a passenger in an Arrow that crashed years ago outside of Leesburg, Florida.

People die all the time, you can't escape that.  As long as man kind lives, man kind will always die.  Sure it's a tragic loss and probably not the way I'd want to go, but it's nothing you can control.

Basically, pilots all go through the same training, but when things go wrong, no amount of training in the world can save you from freak accidents.  TWA800, Alaskan 261, USAir 427, all victims of tragic accidents.  Heck I was supposed to be on Pan Am 103 back in 1988 when I returned to the USA.  The point is, you have no control of when or how you're going to die.  Instead of mourning their loss (especially since you're not related to any of the deceased) we should patiently await for the findings of what brought this bird down, so that we (mechanics, engineers and pilots) can do all that we can do to avoid it from happening again in the future.  

From a pilots point of view, we have to learn the hazardous events that lead up to a crash so that we can identify it early on and hope that if that time comes, we can take the right steps to avoid a crash...  it might not be a moral view from the public, but for pilots, we have to learn from other people's mistakes.

[franthree]

Tragic news- !--FSW member Poseidon is from Clarence, NY--hope you are okay mate!

[davie18]

One of the victimes was a 9/11 widow who was going to celebrate what would have been her husband Sean Rooney's 58th birthday. RIP

http://news.bbc.co.u...cas/7889106.stm

[likebernie4]

Thanks for your concern, Frank. My family and I are fine, we live on the other side of Clarence. Everyone at school was extremely shake-up. In fact, Clarence didn't have school today, but because I go to a Catholic school, I had school today. My friend's second cousin died in the crash, and the 9/11 widow was a close friend to my sister's teacher.

RIP all.

[franthree]

Nice to hear Poseidon---terrible tragedy!   It was a Dash-8--icing on wings!

[Brad]

N200WQ

[franthree]

Anyone know about the De-Icing boots the Dash -8 has--they inflate I guess? Mr. NWilkinson ?

[89-LX]

ust saw the latest news that the plane pretty much started pitching and rolling when the gear was lowered. I am calling it right now - tail stall. They thought it was a wing stall, pitched down and applied full power which aggrivated the tail stall even worst.

[Tango3]

Isn't it a coincidence that this happen almost just before friday 13th

[03SVTCobra]

NWilkinson, on Feb 13 2009, 01:44 AM, said:

Greeney, on Feb 12 2009, 11:18 PM, said:

wth happened this time... Bombardier is in trouble with this Q400 series.

Well be smart, wait for the NTSB to say what brought the aircraft down before blaming it on the aircraft.

Not to put the cart before the horse...but pilots have been wary of operating the Q400s in icy conditions since their creation.

[Greeney]

Ice build up leading to a stall of some airfoil... David most likely has it correct...