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[Prancer]

A.) and if you don't have a pilot's license?
and
B.)Are you rated by the FAA to fly a 747?

And also, by the time you did all that, you could probably forget JFK.

Edited by Zarquen, 23 February 2006 - 10:02 PM.

[shoumik]

dude if u are the only hope, there is no other person on board that could take this plane down wouldint u think that the ATC would allow u land the 747? If its not u then its no body! Every one of the 400 people will die from limb to limb! Tragic scene, and yet all this could be avioded by a simple sim pilot. If u are the only hope, they will allow u to land the 747.

Edited by shoumik, 23 February 2006 - 10:04 PM.

[Prancer]

shoumik, you do know that bringing a 747 down, esp. manually, is a two person job, correct?
And out of 400 people, you are not the only one's who's played Flight simulator, or had a pilot's license. And you seem to forget:

-The pilots can be woken up
-And if it's that's close to landing, then you're already below 10,000 feet, so how in the heck could both pilots go unconcious in the first place? I'd be more concerned on what to do if this happens in the middle of the Atlantic.

Edited by Zarquen, 23 February 2006 - 10:17 PM.

[shoumik]

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 10:06 PM, said:

shoumik, you do know that bringing a 747 down, esp. manually, is a two person job, correct?
And out of 400 people, you are not the only one's who's played Flight simulator, or had a pilot's license. And you seem to forget:

-The pilots can be woken up
-And if it's that's close to landing, then you're already below 10,000 feet, so how in the heck could both pilots go unconcious?

The pilots can be uncon. by numerious reasons that include medically or the cabin oxygen level decreased. Remeber the guys that fly the 747 are senior captains! And there has to be someone out of the 400 people that can read and speak in the english language. It would take too long to wake them up. Another possibility is that while the sim pilot is at the cocpit someone can be trying to wake thge pilots up.

[N3123V]

it is only above 15,000ft that all occupants of the aircraft need oxygen, and above 14,000ft that the flight crew are required to have it, think about skydivers, they don't need oxygen...

[Prancer]

Ok, but what about a second person flying the plane? You can't land it on your own.

[shoumik]

the second person can help me or guide me.

[Prancer]

I think you missed what I was saying, you need a person at least as knowing as you, if not more to also fly the plane in (your 'co-pilot') Now, as you stated earlier, what if you're the only person on the plane who has any the slightest idea how to fly a 747. If that be the case, and there's not another person who knows, you are in some deep doo-doo.

[Carter]

A 747 can feasably be flown single pilot, everything you absolutely NEED is right there within your reach. Especially so in a -400 series.

[Prancer]

Then why bother putting a co-pilot in it?

[shoumik]

Carter, on Feb 23 2006, 10:56 PM, said:

A 747 can feasably be flown single pilot, everything you absolutely NEED is right there within your reach. Especially so in a -400 series.

Thank you carter. You read my mind  

[Carter]

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 07:01 PM, said:

Then why bother putting a co-pilot in it?

To reduce workload, cross-check everything, increase situational awareness and to combat fatigue. We're talking an emergency situation, not everyday jaunts across the Atlantic.

[Prancer]

And wouldn't an emergency situation be when you need an extra set of hands, eyes, ears, and brains the most?

Edited by Zarquen, 23 February 2006 - 11:08 PM.

[shoumik]

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 11:07 PM, said:

And wouldn't an emergency situation be when you need an extra set of hands, eyes, ears, and brains the most?

Your ultimate goal is just get the ###### thing off the air buddy. And save as much lives as possible. Thats all, anyone can get a airplane down its just a matter of fact as to how well u can get it down. Let emergencies come, just get the ###### thing off the air thats all.

Edited by shoumik, 23 February 2006 - 11:14 PM.

[Prancer]

shoumik, on Feb 23 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 11:07 PM, said:

And wouldn't an emergency situation be when you need an extra set of hands, eyes, ears, and brains the most?

Your ultimate goal is just get the ###### thing off the air buddy. And save as much lives as possible. Thats all, anyone can get a airplane down its just a matter of fact as to how well u can get it down. Let emergencies come, just get the ###### thing off the air thats all.

Something just hit me....since there is no damage to the plane, why not keep the plane in a low, level orbit out of traffic until the pilots come to?

And secondly, that's what I'm trying to say, the ultimate goal in your argument is to get the plane out of the air...well, do you want to do it safely, where the extra set of hands, eyes, and brains can really help you, or do you just want to do it by yourself as quickly and as sloppily as possible?

[shoumik]

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 11:20 PM, said:

shoumik, on Feb 23 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 11:07 PM, said:

And wouldn't an emergency situation be when you need an extra set of hands, eyes, ears, and brains the most?

Your ultimate goal is just get the ###### thing off the air buddy. And save as much lives as possible. Thats all, anyone can get a airplane down its just a matter of fact as to how well u can get it down. Let emergencies come, just get the ###### thing off the air thats all.

Something just hit me....since there is no damage to the plane, why not keep the plane in a low, level orbit out of traffic until the pilots come to?

And secondly, that's what I'm trying to say, the ultimate goal in your argument is to get the plane out of the air...well, do you want to do it safely, where the extra set of hands, eyes, and brains can really help you, or do you just want to do it by yourself as quickly and as sloppily as possible?

thats a good idea.

U are still not getting it. Look the 2 pilots are uncon. U only have a sim pilot with no experience to real world aviation. Even if the sim pilot is a master of 747 on fs2004, he still doesnt know how the 747 would react in certain speed and turns. The best way is to land on JFK keep the ###### ride short and save as much lives as possible.

[Prancer]

Autopilot could really help out.

And if he cannot figure out keeping the plane level and turning it, then he should not be trying to land it. What would he do if he had to go around?

Edited by Zarquen, 23 February 2006 - 11:39 PM.

[shoumik]

Zarquen, on Feb 23 2006, 11:39 PM, said:

Autopilot could really help out.

And if he cannot figure out keeping the plane level and turning it, then he should not be trying to land it. What would he do if he had to go around?

well hes the last hope for survival

Edited by shoumik, 23 February 2006 - 11:50 PM.

[Prancer]

shoumik, I'm going to say this one last thing before I bow out of this. The plane is not getting ready to crash. It has no damage. It can still fly perfectly well All the person in question has to do is put the autopilot on 'level' and inform ACT as to what's going on. From there, ACT will decide what to do. But this person in question is not everyone's last hope for survival. The plane is not getting ready to crash. The pilots can be awakened and they can land it themselves when they come to.

[Nick.]

well id at least TRY to fly it.......i mean if you do land all the girls will wanna go out with you lol j/k anywho id try and fly it,although im pretty crap on landings its worth a try